In this episode Paul talks to Mark Nicholson, Head of Online for O2. Mark and Paul discuss how the remit of the digital lead in a large organisation has changed and how and where marketing and digital intersect. Mark stresses the importance of frictionless digital experience to drive customer retention and satisfaction, a pertinent reminder in a post pandemic world. Mark also talks about the framework he and his team use for evaluating and deploying new martech and the need for constant test and refine. Listen in to hear the commitment Mark makes to further delivering against customer service excellence and his advice for others.